CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Urs Eppenberger/SWITCH
Minutes of the Mail and Directory Management BOF (MADMAN)
Agenda
o Minutes of the SAM BOF
o Review of the Charter
o Review of the Documents
- Application monitoring MIB
- MTA monitoring MIB
- DSA monitoring MIB
The Minutes of the SNMP Application Monitoring BOF (SAM), which met
during the November 1992 IETF, were accepted without any comments. The
Group then moved on to a review of the Charter for the MADMAN BOF. The
following decisions were reached:
o Monitoring of Message Store is added to the Charter. Message Store
does include X.400(88) Message Store, POP, IMAP...
o The management of the applications is not a working item for the
Group. The MIB enables MTA and DSA managers to detect when things
go wild by monitoring the most important system variables.
o The application monitoring MIB is planned to be finalised for the
Amsterdam IETF.
o The DSA and MTA monitoring MIBs are planned for the Fall 1993 IETF.
o Work on the Message Store MIB will start after the Fall 1993 IETF.
o The IFIP Working Group on email management has a more general
approach. Good relations are ensured by cross participation of
Working Group members and the sharing of documents.
The remainder of the session was spent in reviewing various documents.
o Application Monitoring MIB
- It is based on Steve's original proposal and should form a
framework for all network applications.
- A name string will be added.
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- A version indication per application is needed.
- The concept on representation of processes in the host MIB will
be checked.
- There are already two other MIBs defined, a very short one from
HP and one from CDC, concentrating on Mail and Directory.
o DSA monitoring MIB
- Additional variables: operations pending, active chained
operations to other DSAs, current number of requests from
clients in process, counters for replications, fail indication.
o MTA Monitoring MIB
- Support now for multiple MTAs on a single system is added.
- A new abstraction has been added: channel. This is to get
some figures out of very simple MTAs. A problem is deferred
delivered messages and alarms set on `oldest message per
channel'.
- A counter for rejected messages is added.
- A separate document is needed, also an RFC, to define object
identifiers as a basis for identifying TCP services based on
their port number.
- Glenn volunteers to work on a layered model of the MTA
monitoring approach. An association layer which receives and
sends the messages and a higher level which routes and modifies
(in case of gateway functions) the messages.
o Message Store MIB
- Monitor UAs connected to the message store, submission,
retrieval, messages locked in the store.
- The MIB should support capacity planning.
- Ed Reed volunteered to work on a document to study the issues
involved.
Attendees
Harald Alvestrand Harald.Alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
Robert Austein sra@epilogue.com
Cyrus Chow cchow@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Robert Cooney cooney@wnyose.nctsw.navy.mil
Urs Eppenberger eppenberger@switch.ch
Ned Freed ned@innosoft.com
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Terry Gray gray@cac.washington.edu
Roland Hedberg Roland.Hedberg@rc.tudelft.nl
Barbara Jennings bjjenni@sandia.gov
Thomas Johannsen Thomas.Johannsen@ebzaw1.et.tu-dresden.de
Kevin Jordan Kevin.E.Jordan@cdc.com
Marko Kaittola Marko.Kaittola@funet.fi
Steve Kille S.Kille@isode.com
Sylvain Langlois Sylvain.Langlois@exp.edf.fr
Bruce Mackey brucem@cinops.xerox.com
Glenn Mansfield glenn@aic.co.jp
Ignacio Martinez martinez@rediris.es
Bob Morgan morgan@networking.stanford.edu
William Nowicki nowicki@legato.com
Geir Pedersen Geir.Pedersen@usit.uio.no
David Perkins dperkins@synoptics.com
Edward Reed eer@cinops.xerox.com
Jim Romaguera romaguera@cosine-mhs.switch.ch
Yzhak Ronen y.ronen@homxa.att.com
Chris Shaw cshaw@banyan.com
Sue Smith smiths.es.net
Einar Stefferud stef@nma.com
Catherine Summers cfs@cos.com
Panos-Gavriil Tsigaridas Tsigaridas@fokus.berlin.gmd.dbp.de
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