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I've always been in the core of it, in the nucleus of this whole thing.
I've always been one of the first to do this. I was the first artist
to show in Holland, have a one-man show, I was the first to go to Germany
and have a one-man show. So, now for once I wanted to take a back seat
and just observe things. I feel I've made the right move doing this.
Granted I haven't produced over the last two years and I haven't made
art sales, but that wasn't always important to me, making sales or making
paintings. What was important to me is that I did good work,or at least
attempted good work. That's one of the reasons I didn't do anything
with Kevin Krich, because it just wouldn't have been right for me to
paint a motorcycle if I wasn't painting on canvas or if I wasn't doing
art on my own. It wouldn't have been a clear transition at all for me.
Now that I could say that my batteries are restored, I have plenty
of good ideas, I could come back stronger. I'm feeling good, my mind
is clear now. I'm a cyclist, there's a saying, free your mind and your
ass will follow, that's what basically has happened here. Now I could
execute my thoughts with more confidence than I would if I were just
constantly doing, doing.
A lot of times I have to stop myself because I just want to paint,
but I know I have to sit back and compile more ideas. I have a whole
new idea for a series of paintings but I don't want to do them until
I'm absolutely ready. I want the impact to be big, so I don't want to
do it a little at the time.
I've been working on canvas for about twelve years now. Going very
strong for six or seven years, it's only natural that you burn yourself
out. I needed to take a break. It was a heavy time for all of us, running
around, having shows. And not only that, we were doing other stuff like
commercial things, and that takes a lot of energy out of you. Because
not only do you have to produce on cue, it's mentally draining as well.
For a while we were doing performance painting (until the middle eighties)
with the rappers and the break-dancers, that was their stuff, but we
had to adapt to that kind of tempo and that was very draining.
I've always had a problem with group shows because when you're in a
group show it's hard to keep the concentration on the individuals. I
mean small gallery shows where you are categorized as one group of people.
We, myself included, made a few mistakes when we started as artists,
and people have capitalized on that because they saw they were able
to come in and make good of a situation that we weren't totally familiar
with. Which is okay because it's also a learning process. I've always
had a good rapport with the art-dealers here, I understand their position.
There's always pressure put on people from the establishment, there's
always a certain amount of politics. It's something you have to learn
to accept, or work around.
Our work was very hard to understand at the beginning. People here
in New York tend to be frightened of things they don't understand. Jean-Michel
Basquiat and Keith Haring were more palatable, it didn't frighten people
as much as our work, as our presence. We were very young, and because
we didn't pay for our paint they regarded us as thieves.
The biggest battle for us was to fight for our individualism, we had
to stand as individuals. We no longer wanted to be classified as a group
of Graffiti painters or subway artists, that was the largest battle
for me to overcome, and for the others I imagine. That's way I still
don't like group exhibitions.
Now when I come back, it will be strictly my work speaking for me,
now that I have myself removed from that surrounding. The whole thing
of us was verbal, communicating on the subways. I feel now that people
have lived long enough with the work and they understand what it's about.
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